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		<title>Comment on Managing Conflicts of Interest: Three Lessons from New York by Rob B.</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/03/08/managing-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2477</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number of times that the issue of ethics is raised is not as important as how those ethics are defined. Nor is the frequency as important as whether people live by the ethics they proclaim. 

All too often an undefined sense of righteousness fills the rhetoric of newsmakers on all sides of the political spectrum, leaving behind a vacuum of actual ethics. Politicians can&#039;t possibly please everyone they represent, so sensationalist claims of lacks of morality are an easy tactic. 

Unfortunately the recent Supreme Court decision allowing even further corporate influence over our politicians will put their ethics, and our patience, still further to the test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number of times that the issue of ethics is raised is not as important as how those ethics are defined. Nor is the frequency as important as whether people live by the ethics they proclaim. </p>
<p>All too often an undefined sense of righteousness fills the rhetoric of newsmakers on all sides of the political spectrum, leaving behind a vacuum of actual ethics. Politicians can&#8217;t possibly please everyone they represent, so sensationalist claims of lacks of morality are an easy tactic. </p>
<p>Unfortunately the recent Supreme Court decision allowing even further corporate influence over our politicians will put their ethics, and our patience, still further to the test.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing Conflicts of Interest: Three Lessons from New York by Ed Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/03/08/managing-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2475</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush:

Your point is well taken and well explained.  We certainly do nothing to warn, even to point out to, our newly electeds that there are a lot of things that are marginably acceptable in private life which become career kilers in public life.  One can understand and have some empathy for a few of these neophites, but Charlie Rangel has been there before.  Lots of times.  Old behavior patterns are often hard to break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush:</p>
<p>Your point is well taken and well explained.  We certainly do nothing to warn, even to point out to, our newly electeds that there are a lot of things that are marginably acceptable in private life which become career kilers in public life.  One can understand and have some empathy for a few of these neophites, but Charlie Rangel has been there before.  Lots of times.  Old behavior patterns are often hard to break.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Commentary: Campaign Finance, Free Speech, and the Scotty Rule by E. Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/01/25/campaign-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-2474</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the concept of unintended consequences.  The best defense against undue influence is transparency.  Attempts to block influence only caused them to go underground or use loopholes, such as PACs, that coverup their influence.  Only ill-informed people have been duped into thinking corporations don&#039;t have all the influence they can afford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the concept of unintended consequences.  The best defense against undue influence is transparency.  Attempts to block influence only caused them to go underground or use loopholes, such as PACs, that coverup their influence.  Only ill-informed people have been duped into thinking corporations don&#8217;t have all the influence they can afford.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing Conflicts of Interest: Three Lessons from New York by E. Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/03/08/managing-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2473</link>
		<dc:creator>E. Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The overt conflicts of interest that clearly enrich or empower the perpetrator or his/her friends are relatively easy to be outrages over.  It is the fuzzy realm of the perceived conflict and the inevitability of some conflict in partisan politics that can get crazy.  It is a fantasy to think a politician is going to impartially represent his/her constituents on all issues.   

Corporations setup PACs to contribute to politicians in both parties to gain access.  Contributors are going to get more access because that is the only product the politician has to sell in exchange for corporate contributions.  Special interests will contribute to candidates who support their special position.  Again the politician must maintain this position to get the special interest contribution regardless of his/her own position or where the majority of their constituents stand.  The occasional free vacation or free dinner just becomes a gratuity among comrades.  

When I was a design engineer, equipment sales representatives would occasionally take me to lunch or deliver a gift bottle of wine.  I accepted these as compensation for the time I gave them and in the spirit of their gratitude that I was willing to patiently listen to their sales pitch.  There was never the implication by either party that it was a commitment to steer business their way.  Although, I can see someone could perceive this was the case or some salespersons wish it was the case.

In the mean time, the revolving door continues to be a huge conflict of interest problem.  People enter government, make their connections, and walk into high paying privates jobs selling their potential bureaucrat influence to the highest bidder.  It is not the corruption of the high-profile politicians still in government that is the biggest problem.  It is what goes on under the radar via government procurements.  We&#039;re not talking free golf trip.  Just look at the Boeing- USAF fuel tanker contract the had to be retracted because the purchasing officer became a Boeing executive within months of the award.  Or the bank executives that get appointed into Fed regulatory positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The overt conflicts of interest that clearly enrich or empower the perpetrator or his/her friends are relatively easy to be outrages over.  It is the fuzzy realm of the perceived conflict and the inevitability of some conflict in partisan politics that can get crazy.  It is a fantasy to think a politician is going to impartially represent his/her constituents on all issues.   </p>
<p>Corporations setup PACs to contribute to politicians in both parties to gain access.  Contributors are going to get more access because that is the only product the politician has to sell in exchange for corporate contributions.  Special interests will contribute to candidates who support their special position.  Again the politician must maintain this position to get the special interest contribution regardless of his/her own position or where the majority of their constituents stand.  The occasional free vacation or free dinner just becomes a gratuity among comrades.  </p>
<p>When I was a design engineer, equipment sales representatives would occasionally take me to lunch or deliver a gift bottle of wine.  I accepted these as compensation for the time I gave them and in the spirit of their gratitude that I was willing to patiently listen to their sales pitch.  There was never the implication by either party that it was a commitment to steer business their way.  Although, I can see someone could perceive this was the case or some salespersons wish it was the case.</p>
<p>In the mean time, the revolving door continues to be a huge conflict of interest problem.  People enter government, make their connections, and walk into high paying privates jobs selling their potential bureaucrat influence to the highest bidder.  It is not the corruption of the high-profile politicians still in government that is the biggest problem.  It is what goes on under the radar via government procurements.  We&#8217;re not talking free golf trip.  Just look at the Boeing- USAF fuel tanker contract the had to be retracted because the purchasing officer became a Boeing executive within months of the award.  Or the bank executives that get appointed into Fed regulatory positions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing Conflicts of Interest: Three Lessons from New York by Breck Henderson</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/03/08/managing-conflicts/comment-page-1/#comment-2467</link>
		<dc:creator>Breck Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a conservative, I&#039;m happy to see the Democrats embroiled in ethics problems.  But experience tells me there is probably more to all this than meets the eye.  Does the Democratic machine in New York want David Patterson out of the way so Andrew Cuomo can be elected governor easily?  Is Rahm Emanuel really trying to get rid of Congressman Eric Massa so he can have a &quot;yes&quot; vote appointed for the health care bill?  Who might benefit by getting rid of Charles Rangel as head of Ways &amp; Means? 

We don&#039;t really know whether any of these guys actually did the things they are accused of or not -- and we probably never will.  More than likely, this stuff is so commonplace that the three culprits were only doing what they&#039;ve see their mentors doing for decades.  The difference this time is that people even more powerful than they wanted them out of the way, so this time the offense is punished.  How else to explain the amazing ethical lapses of Bill Clinton, yet in his case, the powers who take it upon themselves to decide such things decreed that he was just the victim of a &quot;vast, right wing conspiracy&quot; and gave him an ethical pass. 

I&#039;d like to think that the careers of powerful people could swing on minor ethical lapses, but I doubt that&#039;s really the case.  It&#039;s just so hard to know the truth that I hesitate to draw global ethical lessons from any of these political games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a conservative, I&#8217;m happy to see the Democrats embroiled in ethics problems.  But experience tells me there is probably more to all this than meets the eye.  Does the Democratic machine in New York want David Patterson out of the way so Andrew Cuomo can be elected governor easily?  Is Rahm Emanuel really trying to get rid of Congressman Eric Massa so he can have a &#8220;yes&#8221; vote appointed for the health care bill?  Who might benefit by getting rid of Charles Rangel as head of Ways &amp; Means? </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t really know whether any of these guys actually did the things they are accused of or not &#8212; and we probably never will.  More than likely, this stuff is so commonplace that the three culprits were only doing what they&#8217;ve see their mentors doing for decades.  The difference this time is that people even more powerful than they wanted them out of the way, so this time the offense is punished.  How else to explain the amazing ethical lapses of Bill Clinton, yet in his case, the powers who take it upon themselves to decide such things decreed that he was just the victim of a &#8220;vast, right wing conspiracy&#8221; and gave him an ethical pass. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think that the careers of powerful people could swing on minor ethical lapses, but I doubt that&#8217;s really the case.  It&#8217;s just so hard to know the truth that I hesitate to draw global ethical lessons from any of these political games.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Poor School Performance Justify Clean Sweep of Staff? by Gerry McIntyre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry McIntyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mass firing strikes me as being a rather blunt instrument to use if one is truly concerned about &quot;turning around&quot; performance -- by teachers and/or students. Of course, more &quot;surgical&quot; approaches --though likely to be more effective in the long run -- seldom draw the headlines that this case has garnered.  I just hope that the media continues to follow progress at this school over time and that we get an informed picture showing whether or not such a drastic measure proved effective in achieving the objective that was used to &quot;justify&quot; it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mass firing strikes me as being a rather blunt instrument to use if one is truly concerned about &#8220;turning around&#8221; performance &#8212; by teachers and/or students. Of course, more &#8220;surgical&#8221; approaches &#8211;though likely to be more effective in the long run &#8212; seldom draw the headlines that this case has garnered.  I just hope that the media continues to follow progress at this school over time and that we get an informed picture showing whether or not such a drastic measure proved effective in achieving the objective that was used to &#8220;justify&#8221; it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on More Likely to Die by Nigel DuPree</title>
		<link>http://www.globalethics.org/newsline/2010/03/01/more-likely-to-die/comment-page-1/#comment-2449</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel DuPree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, not very nonjudgmental are we of those unwashed uninsured masses invited to your shores to labour for next to nothing who, if they don&#039;t &#039;make it&#039;, can just go and die early having provided a handy consumer base for the fast food industry, exported to us as well, whilst one gets on one&#039;s high horse about the injustice of less than democratic and pro-social cultures around the world in fact anywhere but good old US of A.

The NHS may not be perfect but as a &#039;free at point of need service&#039; they are life savers even for those you might regard as having self-inflicted their work injuries and/or self-harming quality of life.

Sure there are waiting lists for elective surgery but, for those where urgency is required the majority will receive excellent care even if the hostipals can be a little scruffy and not too clean around the edges. 

Of course the real answer is to nuke the projects, trailer parks and in our case the sink-council estates and other social housing - job done, sorted just leaving the economically active net contributors but then where are you going to find your melon pickers or potatoe riddlers or shrimp and winkle sorters other than from the LDC&#039;s that will soon become the MDC&#039;s as we regress into solely call centre and service providers for them when it once again becomes cheeper back home.

Sorry not about &quot;socialised medicine&quot; but humanistic and functionally equitable and holistic social engineering as we appoach a wider and deeper &quot;hourglass economy&quot; of haves and havenots when the havenots will adopt the recent trend toward direct action and asymetric warfare within bourders rather than across them.  

 The days of &quot;I&#039;m allright jack pull up the ladder&quot; are over and without an increasing level of social let alone risk intellegence environmental and otherwise our comfortable little lives will be potentially short lived.......

Have a nice day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, not very nonjudgmental are we of those unwashed uninsured masses invited to your shores to labour for next to nothing who, if they don&#8217;t &#8216;make it&#8217;, can just go and die early having provided a handy consumer base for the fast food industry, exported to us as well, whilst one gets on one&#8217;s high horse about the injustice of less than democratic and pro-social cultures around the world in fact anywhere but good old US of A.</p>
<p>The NHS may not be perfect but as a &#8216;free at point of need service&#8217; they are life savers even for those you might regard as having self-inflicted their work injuries and/or self-harming quality of life.</p>
<p>Sure there are waiting lists for elective surgery but, for those where urgency is required the majority will receive excellent care even if the hostipals can be a little scruffy and not too clean around the edges. </p>
<p>Of course the real answer is to nuke the projects, trailer parks and in our case the sink-council estates and other social housing &#8211; job done, sorted just leaving the economically active net contributors but then where are you going to find your melon pickers or potatoe riddlers or shrimp and winkle sorters other than from the LDC&#8217;s that will soon become the MDC&#8217;s as we regress into solely call centre and service providers for them when it once again becomes cheeper back home.</p>
<p>Sorry not about &#8220;socialised medicine&#8221; but humanistic and functionally equitable and holistic social engineering as we appoach a wider and deeper &#8220;hourglass economy&#8221; of haves and havenots when the havenots will adopt the recent trend toward direct action and asymetric warfare within bourders rather than across them.  </p>
<p> The days of &#8220;I&#8217;m allright jack pull up the ladder&#8221; are over and without an increasing level of social let alone risk intellegence environmental and otherwise our comfortable little lives will be potentially short lived&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Have a nice day.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunglasses and the Counterfeit Self by Joseph Kamenju</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Kamenju</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A most relieving study. Could it explain that the moral poverty in Africa may have something to do with the prevalence of cheap dumped second-hand clothing and counterfeit products there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A most relieving study. Could it explain that the moral poverty in Africa may have something to do with the prevalence of cheap dumped second-hand clothing and counterfeit products there?</p>
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		<title>Comment on More Likely to Die by Breck Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breck Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These so-called studies should all be looked at with healthy skepticism.  The left is desperately trying to make a case for socialized medicine in the U.S., and as usual they are willing to sacrifice scienific integrity and honesty to do so.  

Far more people will suffer an early death under a system such as that in Canada or the U.K., where waiting lists for treatment are long, qualify of care suffers, and innovation is discouraged.  See the survival rates for all the various cancers in the U.S. versus the rates in countries with socialized medicine -- we do better across the board. If we let this country&#039;s socialist minority destroy our health care system, there will be no place for those seeking the best of care to flee, like the Canadian minister did recently to cure a heart problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These so-called studies should all be looked at with healthy skepticism.  The left is desperately trying to make a case for socialized medicine in the U.S., and as usual they are willing to sacrifice scienific integrity and honesty to do so.  </p>
<p>Far more people will suffer an early death under a system such as that in Canada or the U.K., where waiting lists for treatment are long, qualify of care suffers, and innovation is discouraged.  See the survival rates for all the various cancers in the U.S. versus the rates in countries with socialized medicine &#8212; we do better across the board. If we let this country&#8217;s socialist minority destroy our health care system, there will be no place for those seeking the best of care to flee, like the Canadian minister did recently to cure a heart problem.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Clifton Chadwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though drastic, it is justified.  Schools and teachers often are very entrenched and impressively resistant to change.  Teachers often are the least accountable professional in the US (after university professors).  Without knowing the details, one can still suggest that it is totally possible that this move was justified.  And, of course, the person saying it was &quot; immoral, illegal, unjust, irresponsible, disgraceful, and disrespectful,&quot; is a Union Official (even less accountable!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though drastic, it is justified.  Schools and teachers often are very entrenched and impressively resistant to change.  Teachers often are the least accountable professional in the US (after university professors).  Without knowing the details, one can still suggest that it is totally possible that this move was justified.  And, of course, the person saying it was &#8221; immoral, illegal, unjust, irresponsible, disgraceful, and disrespectful,&#8221; is a Union Official (even less accountable!)</p>
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